The Physical Resource Reference Group MeetingMeeting Notes: 31st October – Webex Attendees Michelle Kirkwood Outgoing Chair Annette Thain New Chair Gill Earl Archive Lead Clare Scanlan S
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Meeting Notes: 31st October – Webex
Attendees
Michelle Kirkwood (Outgoing Chair)
Annette Thain (New Chair)
Gill Earl (Archive Lead)
Clare Scanlan (Space Lead)
Rob Polson
Audrey Marshall
Lynn Easton
Susan Cutherbertson
Donna Watson
Elspeth Lee
Ruth Robinson
Charlotte Boulnois
Laiq Rahman
Paul Manson
Apologies:
Amanda Minns, Stephen Winch, Ann Lees, Kirsty Coltart, Julia Green
DDS Update:
Stephen is currently on annual leave so was unable to attend
A copy of presentation given on the 24th of October at the librarian event was provided, along with the following email update from David Dougan:
- recruitment for systems developer to support the project implementation is on track
- requirements specification in draft and should be finalised by mid-Nov
- webex with stakeholders being planned to follow up on Librarian event and give further opportunity to contribute to requirements definition
- library ILL account structure review in process
Any questions are clarifications required for Stephen?
Gill – clarity of who is on the group – would like to offer up one of her team for the group – Stephen could you contact Gill to discuss
Paul – one of the screens on the diagram shows the projected cost of the ILL – met
by the board – that kind of thing puts people off- is it necessary – when they don’t pay, and may not know the context etc
National Print Journal Archive Update – Giill Earl
Presentation Provided – Link
The Knowledge Space Update – Clare Scanlan
Presentation Provided – Link
Book Update
Amanda Minns (not present) is now the lead for this group and has agreed to take forward a national tender process for book procurement
Charlotte Boulnois (in attendance and a member of the book group) has been doing some work with the GGC provider Coutts and the use of ebooks on mobile devices- for more information contact Charlotte
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These four strands of the Physical Resource are now part of the Knowledge Broker Network strand of the K2A implementation, as such Michelle is now stepping down
as Chair and Annette Thain as the lead co-ordinator for Knowledge Broker
Network will now be Chair The work of the Physical Resource groups will remain unchanged however they will now report into Annette Annette will continue on with these reference group meetings as scheduled and will be the liaison between these groups and the K2A Change Team and onto the Advisory Board (when in place)
Next Meeting: 27th November 2012 – Sign up on the Doodle Poll
The Physical Resource Reference Group Meeting
Meeting Notes: 29th August – Webex
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Gill Earl*
Michelle Kirkwood
Amanda Minns
Kirsty Coltart
Ann Lees
Carol Hallesy
Charlotte Boulnois
Apologies: Clare Scanlon, Julia Green
Updates:
DDS: Steven – Most people will know Steven via Aleph Had a demo from BL –
shown new online system (http://www.bl.uk/bldss - launching at the end of this month) – looking at this the as the end point – KN looking at developing the middle bit taking the end user from the journal search on TKN to this end point Build will depend on the resource and what can be done (as small as possible) - the question is at what point the user is taken through to the BL
AM – are there other groups that run a system like this, that bypasses library moderation?
SW – requests still moderated even when the request is placed on the BL system – and wont become a request until it is moderated, the level of moderation
required is still to be determined Looking at ways to cut out wrong/missing info from a request
AM – is this new?
SW – Yes – although it is possible to use the BL interface, but building a new interface at the user end is new One of the key things is being able to identify which user belongs to which board We may need to go to single accounts per board (some boards have multiple accounts) For some smaller boards they may not want to manage accounts – so NES may take a central role in managing those – where other boards will want to continue on managing requests for their users Next step is to work up the specification with the working group, and refining the model
AL will make SW administrator of the working group portal page
Archive
The group met on the 14th of August Still to contact AW regarding getting the K2A executive leads signed up to the project Has reps from majority of the healthboards – will work with the group checking journals etc Still a couple of boards to confirm with the group The group went through a lot of the data – still working on it Iain (GGC PHRU) has come up with some procedures for checking and identifying unique titles, and those that will be archive holdings and what boards hold them – they will be emailed to – to ask them if they will be the archive sites, then moving on to the multiple copies that need to be sorted through Still
a lot of work to be done It is time consuming and initially their way of working wasn’t working Will also use some quality checks as well All docs on shared space Still on target in terms of project timescales – though this does require some leeway for the time taken for boards to get back to the group with any queries
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– due to summer holidays there has been no change since the last reference group meeting To see more in relation to this work please visit The Physical Space pages at: http://www.knowledge.scot.nhs.uk/together/knowledge-into-action/the-physical-resource/the-physical-space-sub-group.aspx
The Book Group - Tender proposal
AM – If this is a national procurement – what is the comms between national and territorial finance re these type of procurements?
MK - Will find out and get back to you
No further update at this time
AOCB -
Next Meeting: 27th September – note I will not be able to chair this meeting as I will only be returning from A/L on this date If there is another volunteer to chair then I will hand over, if not can we suspend until the October meeting?
Meeting Notes 23rd July - Webex
Attendees:
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Julia Green*
Laiq Rahman
Lynn Easton
Susan Cuthberston
Marie Muszynski
Charlotte Boulnois
Michelle Kirkwood*
Andy Jackson*
Archive Update
Held another meeting by Webex on the 10th of July
o Went through their work programme - delegating tasks
Has discussed MoU and Board sign up - no longer seeking chief exec sign off but considering K2A exec leads signed up
Sent out request to get reps from each board - Gill just back from hols but has a number of responses
Still getting SHINE NHS data as accurate as possible - group members contacting services to ensure that the data is as clean /accurate as
possible
Next step best place for things to be held
Also been putting stuff on the shared space - some issues - saving changes
- Char dealing with this - need working/shared doc functionality - might be worth looking at something like google docs etc
Next meeting on the 14th of August in Edinburgh - looking at the data DDS Update
Andy to circulate docs mentioned in previous meeting – by placing on TKN
or sending to MK
A meeting this wed - Anthony Troman - from BL is coming up to see the group (systems people)and demo the API that the BL are developing - which is the middle ware designed to transfer data from TKN to BL
interface (key bridge) to enable the requests to travel over Also relay the aims of our project to them - and review any gaps left
Last time we met was way before it was fully developed - meeting will be written up, and distributed to the wider working group
There will be a full group meeting soon after
On the back of this the specification will be more fully developed - see notes from LEAN session/specification for more info on what the 'vision' is The Knowledge Space
Not met since last reference group meeting
Web page updated
The Book Group
Mind map updated - and page updated on the shared space
Request from the Change Team for all working group pages to be kept up
to date and include any meeting notes Thanks
Next meeting 29th August 2pm
The Physical Resource Reference Group Meeting
26th June 2012-06-26
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Julia Green (representing the Physical Space), Gill Earl, Charlotte Boulnois, Andy Jackson, Susan Cuthbertson, Audrey Marshall, Dianne Mitchell, Margaret Theaker, Carol Hallesy
Chair: Michelle Kirkwood
Updates
(Actions in red) (Response in Green)
DDS – Andy Jackson
Large amount of background work has been done
Usability study by Strathclyde University ILS placement student – looking
at accessing the fulltext from the perspective of the first time user, also discussed access with a Librarian at NHSGGC, specifically difficulties encountered by users At the end of the 5 weeks the student presented a
30 page report
AJ took this report and replicated some of the tests – producing a shorter report of issues (AJ will circulate this version)
Following this there was an internal KSG meeting to discuss the findings and to look at specifically technical issues and focus on systems
Sandra Davies from KSG assessed the issues within the context of
information architecture and produced another report with mainly an internal focus on what can and cannot be done (AJ will also circulate this)
1st full meeting of the working group will take place on Thursday 28th June
AJ has also be in contact with BL to discuss where they are - AJ will be sharing this with the working group in the first instance
Funding for DDS development approved by SG
National Print Journal Archive – Gill Earl
First meeting of the group on the 6th of June in Edinburgh
Gordon Dunsire contacted to extract the holidings of the SHINe Union List –
HE and non-NHS holdings removed leaving only NHS data to be analysed
Advised by the SHINe membership secretary that some boards had not renewed their Union List membership although their data was still
available – group contacting these boards to check validity of data and add further holdings to master data set if required
Group receiving a number of enquiries from boards regarding holdings in storage or plans to discard - group are working with these as well
A member of the group is compiling a communication list for non-NHS libraries to ensure that they are all aware of what is happening
Group pulling together documentation to support the archive and obtain representation from the boards What is required to get board sign up to the archive – at what level should MoU be approved/signed off – MK to ask
at next Change Team Meeting
10th July – next meeting via Webex
The Physical Space – Julia Green
Meeting of the group held on the 13th of June
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Services will be approached soon
The Book Group
Held a meeting via webex in June – see the outcomes of both meetings held so far on the mind map available at:
http://mind42.com/pub/mindmap?mid=6a6f6075-bd13-40d1-8dc4-02b1f4a5b37f&rel=url
Currently working on the Collection Management Framework
Next meeting is the 23rd of July – to add your name to the attendance please go to http://www.doodle.com/pd97b5289rgdzywx (register using your email address please – the webex details will be sent a day or so before
The Physical Resource Reference Group Meeting
29th May 2012
Webex
In attendance:
Ann Lees (on behalf of Andy Jackson), Gill Earl, Charlotte Boulnois, Iain Stewart, Kirsty Coltart, Susan Cuthbertson, Lesley Reid, Clare Scanlan, Julia Green, Donna Watson
Chair: Michelle Kirkwood
(Actions in red) (Response in Green)
1 Introductions
2 Remit of reference group – informal, opportunity for updates and feedback
3 Updates from Group –
DDS – presentation provided regarding user testing
a Who is on the team?
Faiyaz Sheik
Sandra Davies
Stephen Winch
Ann Lees
Lesley Robertson
Julia Green
Jenny Harbour
Christopher Russell / Karen Sinclair
b What are the timescales for the full project?
See the Terms of Reference – to be distributed and placed on portal
c Could the student report on usability be shared with the wider community?
The National Print Archive – verbal update from Gill Earl They have been getting the message out about the work that they are doing, and have also send a lis-shine message requesting updates of holdings as part of the preliminary work Gill/Charlotte have met, but the first full meeting of the group will be on the 6th of June – which will be face to face followed up by webex meetings Group will have
a remit to both project plan and for practical tasks First task is the agreement
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i Ask about funding for the move and disposal of journals
The Physical Space –verbal update from Clare – The group has been formed and have had one meeting – next meeting soon Looked at remit of the group – found
a bias towards territorial boards, this is being addressed They are presenting case studies within NHS Will also be utilising the SHINe Journal Club
The Book Club- presentation on discussion of the first group meeting Generated more discussion on specifically national tender, and eBooks
ii Those on the call with active collection management policies will share them
iii Michelle to share with Clare paper on ebooks
Michelle to send round notes, and response to Qs from DDS presentation when available